Consolidates the design-discovery for the timestampOffset-relocation approach to non-zero-PTS: the three-timeline coordinate model (media / presentation / wall-clock, with timestampOffset derived from startTime - startMediaTime), the orthogonal capability axes (relocation / parser / coordination), the discover -> reduce -> apply -> consume architecture with branch-free always-present actors, and the open hinges -- chief among them generalizing the live establishment behavior for VOD. Draft; spike-stage. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.8 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com>
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Presentation Timeline Coordinate Model
The coordinate model that lets an SPF engine translate between the three
timelines a streaming presentation lives on — media, presentation, and
wall-clock — and the architecture for non-zero-PTS timestampOffset
relocation built on it.
This is a design-in-progress for the timestampOffset-relocation approach to
non-zero-PTS (spike branch spike/spf-non-zero-pts-timestamp-offset). It is the
"how it's modeled and where it lives" companion to the mechanism decision in
../../decisions/mse-timestamp-offset.md
and the feature framing in
features/non-zero-pts-support.md.
Problem
Zero-PTS VOD let one number do everything. The encoded media, the player's
currentTime, and the model's Track.startTime were all 0-based and identical,
so the loader could compare currentTime to segment.startTime directly and the
buffer's native PTS matched what the player displayed.
Non-zero-PTS breaks that identity. A Mux instant clip (asset_start_time=60)
encodes its first frame at native PTS ≈ 60s; Apple's bipbop asset starts at 10s.
Now the buffer's native timeline (60→…) and the player's desired 0-based timeline
diverge. Live added a third timeline — wall-clock, via
EXT-X-PROGRAM-DATE-TIME — and, in doing so, made Track.startTime mean
different things in different engines: the live anchor rewrites startTime onto
native PTS, while VOD keeps it 0-normalized. The same field straddles two
timelines. That ambiguity is the coordinate confusion at the root of the
"non-zero-PTS is hard" problem.
We want (a) one coherent model of the three timelines, and (b) an architecture that adds relocation to the engine without touching the simple case — no complexity and no bundle cost for the zero-PTS VOD composition that got us this far.
Three timelines, one instant
A timeline is fixed by knowing one instant's coordinate in it. Pick the presentation's origin instant and record its value in each timeline:
| Field | Timeline | Source |
|---|---|---|
startMediaTime |
media (encoded/decode) | tfdt.baseMediaDecodeTime ÷ mdhd.timescale |
startTime |
presentation (currentTime) |
0 for 0-based product semantics (existing field) |
startDate |
wall-clock | EXT-X-PROGRAM-DATE-TIME (existing field, live) |
All three advance 1:1 in seconds, so every translation is pure subtraction —
no scaling (timescale is already folded into startMediaTime):
timestampOffset = startTime − startMediaTime # presentation − media
wallClock(t) = startDate + (t − startTime) # time-of-day at presentation time t
startMediaTime is the one genuinely new field. The relocation offset is
derived from the triple, not stored — storing both would be two
representations that drift (see conventions/signals.md).
This model unifies live anchoring and VOD relocation: the live anchor is the
(media ↔ wall-clock) edge; VOD relocation is the (media ↔ presentation) edge.
They are two edges of one triangle, which is why the machinery converges (see
Open questions).
Why startTime stays the presentation reference
startTime remaining 0-based (not native media) is why the relocation approach
is simpler downstream than native-PTS: with the buffer relocated to 0 via
timestampOffset, currentTime, seekable, and the loader's
currentTime-vs-segment.startTime window math all stay in one 0-based
coordinate. startMediaTime (native) is consumed only to compute the offset
at the buffer boundary — the loader never sees it. (The native-PTS branch made
startTime native and paid for it with coordinate translation everywhere,
including the initial-load stall.)
The cost: because all tracks relocate by the shared min, a skewed non-primary
track's 0-based startTime sits ~skew below its true buffer presentation time
(Apple: ~44ms for video). Sub-frame, only affects coarse load-window planning —
vastly better than native-PTS's full-origin (60s) mismatch.
One offset, applied polymorphically
The relocation is a single presentation-level value that every track applies as
presentation = native + timestampOffset — the application differs, the value
does not:
buffer sample: presentation = sampleNativePTS + timestampOffset # MSE sets sb.timestampOffset
text cue: cueFinal = cueNative + timestampOffset # we compute it
cueNative = LOCAL + MPEGTS/90000 (X-TIMESTAMP-MAP) | absoluteCueTime (no map)
Text has no SourceBuffer, so it effectively has a timestampOffset applied
as cue arithmetic. This is the live single-anchor rule
(../../decisions/live-presentation-anchor.md)
in VOD form: established from the A/V tracks, applied to all tracks including
text.
Shared-min across A/V. The shared startMediaTime is min across the audio
and video tracks' native origins. min (not video-primary, not per-track-own):
- keeps every track's earliest DTS ≥ 0 (relocating by anything larger drives the lower track negative → Chromium append failure);
- preserves real A/V skew (Apple's 44ms audio-lead is retained; relocating each track to its own 0 would flatten it).
Capability axes (not a tier ladder)
The "tiers" are really three orthogonal opt-in axes — a composition enables what its platform needs:
| Axis | Off / simple | On / complex | Driven by |
|---|---|---|---|
| Relocation | no startMediaTime, offset 0 |
read + apply | is the source non-zero-PTS? |
| Parser | presumptive (first box) | track-id-matched | container packaging (muxed clcp/extra track?) |
| Coordination | single origin | min-reduce across A/V |
is A/V actually skewed? |
They cross freely — muxed-captions-but-aligned (track-id + single), or
separate-file-A/V-but-skewed (presumptive + min). The parser axis is already
built as two tree-shakeable exports (media/mp4/timestamp-origin.ts,
committed cf8aaca45): readFirstMediaTimescale/readFirstBaseMediaDecodeTime
(presumptive) vs findMediaTrack/readBaseMediaDecodeTime (track-id).
Architecture: discover → reduce → apply → consume
The concern decomposes by locality, which is what lets the simple case stay untouched and the pieces share code:
- Discover (per-track). An injected fetch-decorator/hook peeks the first
chunk of the init (
mdhdtimescale,tkhdtrack_id,hdlrhandler) and the first media segment (tfdtbaseMediaDecodeTime), computing that track'sstartMediaTime. It is a two-source read across two fetches at two times — the init timescale must be retained (a transient signal) until the first media segment arrives. Writes per-track transient signals, not the Presentation. - Reduce (cross-track). Establish the shared
startMediaTime(min) once per source (sticky), from the first A/V ground truth. Late tracks (ABR rung, late audio/captions) record their ownstartMediaTimebut apply the established offset — no re-reduce. This is the live "establish-once, apply-to-all" shape. - Apply (per-track).
SourceBuffer.timestampOffsetis set from optional per-op append metadata; text cues are shifted by the same value. The wait (for the offset to resolve) lives in the loader, kept abortable for source-reset/preempt — so the SourceBufferActor stays apply-only. - Consume. The settled
startMediaTimelands on the CMAF-HAM model (Track);timestampOffsetis acomputedderived fromstartTime − startMediaTime. The churn (partial per-track reads, waiting, reduce) lives in transient signals and never read-modify-writesstate.presentation— that slot is already a lost-update hazard (seelive-presentation-modeling.md§"Model ↔ anchor ↔ resolve-track coupling", #1746).
Branch-free always-present actors
Because the offset is constant per source once established, the pieces that are present in every composition carry no tier conditionals:
- SourceBufferActor:
sb.timestampOffset = meta.timestampOffset ?? 0before the append — unconditional, batch-safe (per-op), a no-op in the simple case (?? 0on an already-0 buffer). No parsing, no waiting, noappliedFlag. (hls.js wraps this in a tolerance guard against redundant sets on some UAs — a cheap safety we can adopt if needed.) - SegmentLoaderActor: always
awaits the offset signal before the first append and always includes the (constant) offset in the append meta — instant and0/absent in the simple case.
All tier variation collapses to "is the discovery hook injected, and what is the reduce config." Everything downstream is shared.
Key decisions
Documented because they were debated.
startTime stays the presentation reference; add startMediaTime (media)
Decision: startTime remains 0-based (presentation); add startMediaTime
(native media origin) as the new field. startDate stays wall-clock.
Alternatives:
- Make
startTimehonest (native media). Clean three-field correspondence, but ripples through the parser (stop 0-normalizing), the loader (translate everycurrentTime-vs-startTimecomparison), and live'sstartDatemath — i.e. it is the #1746 model cleanup.
Rationale: Relocation keeps everything downstream 0-based, so presentation is
the correct timeline for startTime here; the native origin is needed only to
derive the offset. Keeps the loader coordinate-consistent and the simple case
untouched. The honest-startTime-everywhere convergence (which would also
reconcile live's native startTime) is a separate, named future effort.
Shared-min origin
Decision: relocate all tracks by min of the per-track native origins.
Alternatives: per-track-own (flattens real A/V skew, lossy); video-primary (the field norm — VHS/hls.js — but they sidestep negative-DTS via transmux/offset math we don't have).
Rationale: min is the only choice that keeps every DTS ≥ 0 and preserves
real inter-track skew for native-PTS relocation.
Offset derived, not stored; two parsers split for tree-shaking
timestampOffset is a computed from the model triple, never a stored field.
The presumptive vs track-id parsers are separate exports (not one
optional-selector function) so a caption-free platform tree-shakes the
track-selection machinery (~37% smaller, verified). Application rides optional
per-op append metadata so the always-present actors stay branch-free.
Open questions
- Generalize the live establishment behavior. "Reduce" is establish-once +
sticky + apply-to-all-including-text — which is exactly
anchor-presentation-timeline. Is VOD relocation literally that behavior with a different reducer and apresentation-edge added, or a sibling sharing a primitive? This decides whether "reduce" is acomputedor the stateful establishment behavior, and is the current hinge. See ../../decisions/live-presentation-anchor.md. - Barrier liveness. In the
mincase, each track's first append waits on the other's origin — audio erroring, disabled, or absent must not block forever (timeout / audio-disabled short-circuit; both VHS and hls.js special-case this). - Holding the first segment across the wait. The first media segment is held
(buffered) while the offset resolves, then appended; steady-state streaming is
untouched. The first-chunk peek is validated to contain the
moofwith a ~60–600× margin (first chunk ≥128KB,moof≈0.2–2KB), so no streaming box-peeker is needed — but the hold's interaction with preempt/replan needs care. startMediaTimestorage granularity. Store per-track onTrack(the self-describing triple, leaning yes) vs. only the presentation-level reduced value. Operationally the apply needs only the reduced value.- Text-only sources. No A/V
tfdtto establish from — but theX-TIMESTAMP-MAPMPEGTSis a media-timeline reference, so text could self-establish. Deferrable special path. - Convergence to honest
startMediaTimeeverywhere (the "A" option above), which would let live and VOD share onestartTimesemantic. Its own effort.
See also
- presentation-modeling.md,
live-presentation-modeling.md — the data
model this extends; #1746 (the concurrently-RMW'd
presentationhazard) is why the churn stays in transient signals. - ../../decisions/mse-timestamp-offset.md — the mechanism decision (native-PTS default; relocation for the 0-based cases).
- ../../decisions/live-presentation-anchor.md, ../../decisions/live-timeline-anchoring.md — the live anchor this generalizes.
- features/non-zero-pts-support.md — the feature framing.
packages/spf/src/media/mp4/— the committed box parser (presumptive + track-selected)..claude/plans/spf-non-zero-pts-timestamp-offset-spike.md— the spike's running notes; OSS prior-art survey (buffer-whole is universal; establish-then-gate cross-track) captured in agent memory.